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Haitian curse

Postby Full Quiver » January 14th, 2010, 5:00 am

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/haitians-made-a-pact-with-the-devil-pat-robertson/story-e6frg6so-1225819420988

I want to know if their is video or audio of such a pact being made and what the devil sounds like. :P
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Postby Russell Roberts » January 14th, 2010, 5:29 am

Idiots like Pat Robertson don't understand the movement of tectonic plates. So, I guess any natural phenomena that occur are a result of God's judgment. Read the following explanation for the earthquake.

Here's what geologists think happened:

The actual quake appears to have occurred along the Enriquillo-Plantain Garden Fault, a virtually immovable rock that runs from Montego Bay in Jamaica to the southern part of the island of Hispaniola, which Haiti shares with the Dominican Republic. That vertical fault is pushed by the Caribbean Plate, a unsettled land mass that moves about 20 millimeters east each year.

According to Paul Mann, a research scientist at the University of Texas in Austin, the plates have been pushing against the fault since a major quake in 1760. On Tuesday, the plates got the fault to move. BY ROBERT SAMUELS

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Postby Russell Roberts » January 14th, 2010, 5:33 am

But to answer your question, Full Quiver, about what the devil sounds like, here is an authentic recording of demons from hell captured when scientists drilled a hole in siberia and lowered a microphone. I warn you up front, the recording is very, very scary. Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxdCU2f7ic

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Postby Full Quiver » January 14th, 2010, 6:10 am

Rus, I heard that several years ago when the dig happened. I awoke early one morning to the news report on my clock radio/alarm. I sleep hard and sometimes when I awake to things of this nature I am really bothered by it. Either way the thought of hell's reality is a bother. :cry:
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Postby MacUser » January 14th, 2010, 6:40 am

But ole Pat can get the threads a rolling.. :wink:

1) I posted first.
http://www.jude2.com/viewtopic.php?t=26656&start=15

2) Russell then.
http://www.jude2.com/viewtopic.php?t=26684

3) Then FQ..
http://www.jude2.com/viewtopic.php?t=26687


Seriously.. he just repeated accepted folklore and stated the obvious.
This was one snippet of his entire spot on helping these people asap via resources and air time.


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Postby Russell Roberts » January 14th, 2010, 7:19 am

Macuser, I appreciate context, I really do. But do you think that Pat was merely repeating folklore without insinuating that it was the cause of the tragedy?

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Postby Brian » January 14th, 2010, 7:36 am

I can't say that I agree with Pat Robertson on everything but he didn't actually say that Haiti made a pack "with" the devil, it was "to" the devil. Whether or not the devil "spoke back" is irrelevant, he is always ready and willing to deal with mankind because then he has his hands in our lives and can surely mess it up. (I understand Pat's comments to be based on folklore, my point still stands)

Russell, I see your comments on plate tectonics and such, are you implying that God is not involved in the movements of the earth? I am not sure if you were posting at the time but here is a nice thread on the sovereignty of God.

http://www.jude2.com/viewtopic.php?t=25518&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sovereign&&start=0

I can't believe that Haiti can be so heavily involved in voodoo and such and then when tragedy befalls them people think that that has nothing whatsoever to do with anything. Yea right. :roll:
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Postby Brandon Bowers » January 14th, 2010, 8:13 am

Russell Roberts wrote:But to answer your question, Full Quiver, about what the devil sounds like, here is an authentic recording of demons from hell captured when scientists drilled a hole in siberia and lowered a microphone. I warn you up front, the recording is very, very scary. Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxdCU2f7ic


That is so dumb... There are other similar videos on Youtube.. It's almost comedic.

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Postby Russell Roberts » January 14th, 2010, 8:50 am

Brandon Bowers wrote:
Russell Roberts wrote:But to answer your question, Full Quiver, about what the devil sounds like, here is an authentic recording of demons from hell captured when scientists drilled a hole in siberia and lowered a microphone. I warn you up front, the recording is very, very scary. Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxdCU2f7ic


That is so dumb... There are other similar videos on Youtube.. It's almost comedic.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just thought I would share the joy...spread the love.

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Postby Russell Roberts » January 14th, 2010, 8:53 am

Brian wrote:I can't say that I agree with Pat Robertson on everything but he didn't actually say that Haiti made a pack "with" the devil, it was "to" the devil. Whether or not the devil "spoke back" is irrelevant, he is always ready and willing to deal with mankind because then he has his hands in our lives and can surely mess it up. (I understand Pat's comments to be based on folklore, my point still stands)

Russell, I see your comments on plate tectonics and such, are you implying that God is not involved in the movements of the earth? I am not sure if you were posting at the time but here is a nice thread on the sovereignty of God.

http://www.jude2.com/viewtopic.php?t=25518&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sovereign&&start=0

I can't believe that Haiti can be so heavily involved in voodoo and such and then when tragedy befalls them people think that that has nothing whatsoever to do with anything. Yea right. :roll:


Brian, it does have to do with something - plate tectonics.

Do you think that the Haitians on whom the towers fell were greater sinners?

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Postby Mole_J » January 14th, 2010, 11:45 am

Russell Roberts wrote:
Brandon Bowers wrote:
Russell Roberts wrote:But to answer your question, Full Quiver, about what the devil sounds like, here is an authentic recording of demons from hell captured when scientists drilled a hole in siberia and lowered a microphone. I warn you up front, the recording is very, very scary. Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxdCU2f7ic


That is so dumb... There are other similar videos on Youtube.. It's almost comedic.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just thought I would share the joy...spread the love.


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A serious question

Postby Pastor Gary » January 14th, 2010, 11:56 am

Okay -- Pat Robertson aside for a minute:

Haiti and the Dominican Republic share an island. Haiti has pretty much always been poorer, more politically unstable, chaotic and generally a train wreck in comparison to their Dominican neighbors on the same piece of real estate.

To what is that attributed? I am asking, not setting up a trick answer.
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Re: A serious question

Postby one love » January 14th, 2010, 12:17 pm

Pastor Gary wrote:Okay -- Pat Robertson aside for a minute:

Haiti and the Dominican Republic share an island. Haiti has pretty much always been poorer, more politically unstable, chaotic and generally a train wreck in comparison to their Dominican neighbors on the same piece of real estate.

To what is that attributed? I am asking, not setting up a trick answer.


A very good question.
TO those that feel Pat was way off base (which it was a bad comment) have you ever done a mission trip there? Have you talked to someone that has?
different place for sure

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Postby macgulley » January 14th, 2010, 12:43 pm

Here's one person's take on the difference:

The sizable differences are the culmination of political and social trends that stretch back decades, even centuries. In Haiti, chronic political instability and corruption have combined with poverty, illiteracy, and racial discrimination to pose insurmountable barriers to modernization. Dominicans have also experienced a great deal of corruption and instability, but since 1970 the country has maintained the transition of power through peaceful elections. The continuity of the Dominican government made possible a set of economic reforms in 1990 that led to a decade of steady growth.


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Postby Russell Roberts » January 14th, 2010, 12:47 pm

Plate tectonics! :lol:

Sorry, just kidding bro.


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