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Can I get a witness?

Postby Pastor Gary » August 20th, 2008, 3:25 pm

A visible and prominent leader in COGOP told me, to my face, during the Assembly that he never bothered with Jude2 because in his opinion "it's just a bunch of has-beens and wanna-be's."

So, all you has-beens and wanna-be's, it's time to testify. :lol: There have been several posts here already this week about how different ones have been blessed by their association with this board and its participants, so let's have a major thread, a kind of J2 testimony service.

Can I get a witness?

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Postby DeWayneTN » August 20th, 2008, 3:57 pm

That is an ugly comment.
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Postby KBevangelist » August 20th, 2008, 4:06 pm

Very offensive comment by this leader.

I feel blessed to be apart of such a great community of believers.

We are able to freely express our thoughts, concerns, questions and love. To me that should be how the church operates.

I guess this particular leader is afraid of us to call us "has beens and wanna be's"

by the PG, you are a great dictator of this board and I appreciate your kindness in having it up.

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Postby pastorables » August 20th, 2008, 4:10 pm

It's on! :)

Jude2 has been much more than a place to fellowship, make friends, and even relieve stress. :wink: It has been a place to minister and be ministered to. I am thankful for your site, Pastor Gary, and for all the times you've been my pastor in hours of need.

I could share so many wonderful testimony's directly related to Jude2, such as the time Tim (dolfan) and I hooked up to take relief items to Hurricane Katrina victims, or the time I was able to go preach for Chris (poimen). I'm sure if I made a list I would forget many instances.

Thanks for a wonderful community.

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Postby Gerald Creasy » August 20th, 2008, 4:20 pm

I would like to recall one of Jude 2s greatest moments.

When a young COGOP member and his infant daughter died in a flash flood that washed his vehicle off the interstate THIS COMMUNITY OF BELIEVERS sent more aid to his widow THAN AN ENTIRE region of TV viewers did after watching a TV news report.

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Postby free » August 20th, 2008, 4:41 pm

Give us his initials and a bunch of us has-beens and wanna-bes will take care of him! 8)

This board has blessed me in more ways than I can count...It's community...It's family...It's spiritual help...It feels like home...Maybe he should try it before he makes such negative comments from his ivory tower!
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Postby Karen » August 20th, 2008, 4:49 pm

It sounds like they disregard the scriptures that tell them that they are only servants of the body.

They are really into that "Nicolaitan" system that God hates.

Instead of being willing to get underneath and push the body higher, they think they are the "head" and just don't have time or want to fool with the "so called" has beens or wanna bees.
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Postby DaJudge » August 20th, 2008, 4:50 pm

I'll tell you how it has blessed me. Before I came on as a member 4 years ago (and lurked before that), I honestly had no idea that there were other people in COGOP believed the same things I did about the direction we need to go in as a body (not that all agree on this board!).

For too long we in COGOP had to fear excommunication or being ostracized or held in suspicion if we held any "subversive" beliefs. Jude 2 has played a part in changing that. It lets me know that I'm not alone. And whether Mr. Anonymous COGOP Leader recognizes it or not, Jude 2 has been an incredible agent for change.

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Postby DaJudge » August 20th, 2008, 4:52 pm

BTW, I"m not a "has-beens and wanna-be". I'm a never-will-be and don't-wanna-be. :lol:

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Postby dolfan » August 20th, 2008, 4:55 pm

Man, that makes me mad. But, a soft answer turns away wrath, right?

So, here's my soft answer. This place has been my church, for all intents and purposes, for the better part of a year. Before that, it was a place where I came to terms with the fact that I "had been" in ministry in COGOP and "wanted to be" in ministry again. That question no longer torments me, but without Jude2 I'm not so sure I could say that.

Most importantly, though, although I've only met a few of you in person and a few more by telephone and email, it seems like I know you all. And, I don't give a royal rip what some holier-than-thou self-important person may say about Jude2, the people here are real and genuine. Not "has beens", but certainly "wanna bes". To the person, I've seen people here "wanna be" like Christ, I've seen some "wanna be" loved and accepted, I've seen some "wanna be" taken honestly with respect, I've seen some "wanna be" listened to, I've seen some "wanna be" left alone even, I've seen some "wanna be" better students and followers of the Way, I've seen some "wanna be" just about everything under the sun, and I've seen most of them get what they want in some degree or fashion. Now, if that ain't ministry, tell me what is.

I've seen some have beens, too. How many times I've clicked on the Prayer and Praise forum and seen people say "I have been praying for you." I got a PM from someone today who detected some cynicism in my posts and took the time and consideration to kindly ask me if I was alright. HA! Nobody else in my circle of friends and family has picked up on it. :lol: He said, in a word, "I have been thinking about you."

Yup. Has beens and wanna bes. Good company to be in if you ask me.
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Re: Can I get a witness?

Postby Paully_44 » August 20th, 2008, 5:34 pm

Let the wild rumpus start!

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