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by Pastor Bill
May 22nd, 2003, 10:46 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Michael, I agree with you, that that makes it seem that many we consider great leaders of the past were not Baptised in the spirit according to P/C doctrine, but what conclusion can we draw from that, I don't think it is mearly throwing out the doctrine, but we need to strive to understand it more. ...
by Pastor Bill
May 21st, 2003, 5:26 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Re: OK, I'm confussed

OK, so then I must follow with: 1. Must there be an evidence or various evidences? 2. What are those evidences? Tongues is the only sign that was present in every NT instance of a person being baptised in the Holy Ghost, and it was used as a sign by Peter in Acts chapter 10. I think the problem in ...
by Pastor Bill
May 21st, 2003, 4:55 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Awww, shucks, Pastor G. Thanks. We kinda like you too. Oh, and Joey also plays drums, any brass instrument, guitar and is in the process of learning the banjo. And I really don't care what everyone around me is doing if my heart is engulfed in the worship of my Father. Alright that's it, now your j...
by Pastor Bill
May 21st, 2003, 4:42 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Well, I told Joey that Berea wouldn't be too awful of a drive if something happened to our church. Oh, and Kenya I would love to have you, but unfortunatly I only work in Berea, I pastor in Mt Sterling, so for you Berea would only be about halfway :shock: Probably a little too far to drive and stil...
by Pastor Bill
May 21st, 2003, 4:32 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

AMEN! Isn't that what the church of Ephesus was warned against. The spirit told them they were doing GREAT! but they had 1 sin against them. They did not love with the intensity that they did at first. Somehow! we have grown used to the idea that the zeal, excitement, and passion that you have for ...
by Pastor Bill
May 20th, 2003, 5:02 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Ah, but let's not assume an "emotionally active service" is all jumping and Shouting, Emotionally connecting with God in ANY FORM is what we are seeking, and what at times seems to be lacking more today that it was in the past (at least from what I have seen) I don't care how it is expressed, if we ...
by Pastor Bill
May 20th, 2003, 3:11 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Hey Pastor Jay, I understood you, I've been looking for the same thing here. We started Revival last night, and the evangelist came in not knowing anyone in the church, but couldn't have hit things better if I'd have given him a list of our struggles and shortcomings. IF we want to grow for God, we ...
by Pastor Bill
May 19th, 2003, 8:53 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Pastor G I could not agree more. Sometimes I wonder if what people often mistake as "being in revival" is really little more then "being in feel good". PErhaps Pastor Jay you may want to consider putting forth an evangelistic vision in front of your church and challenging them to reach out to those...
by Pastor Bill
May 19th, 2003, 6:57 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

Re: With all due respect, Jay...

I'll take steady, consistent spiritual growth in my local church and my congregation over a zealous revival any time. But that just my $.02 I'd like to have both. -- Steady, consistent spritual growth along with refreshing outpourting of God's spirit during zealous revival. Pastor Daryl AMEN!! Unle...
by Pastor Bill
May 19th, 2003, 4:21 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: The good ol' days
Replies: 51
Views: 37593

I think the reason we saw all the zeal and dedication was because people were spending time in the Word, and although the church didn't have much of a discipleship program, people took it upon themselves to study more than they do today. Yes there were some problems with many who got saved at every ...
by Pastor Bill
April 21st, 2003, 6:21 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 13
Views: 9378

Good for you

Good for you Kenya, facing ones fears is almost always good thing, but in this situation (the fact that you have guns in your home) it is a really good choice. No one ever collects the USEFUL statistics when it comes to gun related injuries, but from what I have seen most come from carelessness or l...
by Pastor Bill
April 21st, 2003, 2:55 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gun Control
Replies: 13
Views: 9378

Michael I see your point, but still voted down felons because I do think there needs to be a little more restrictions on their lives. I think when it comes to Felons there needs to be a little more than In or Out, Jailed or Free mentality, because even with the penalty being payed they still will ne...
by Pastor Bill
April 17th, 2003, 7:06 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: what do you thind would have happened to
Replies: 4
Views: 4822

I had seen this before, but didn't know where it was (heard it was a town in Texas). I think the law needs to go a little further, especially when so many are pointing to children getting ahold of guns, or irresponsible people getting hurt with their own guns (and yes most who are injured with their...
by Pastor Bill
April 17th, 2003, 6:49 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Well, let's just ask
Replies: 6
Views: 6576

Michael seems to be very intellegent, but sometimes takes a tangent and runs too far with it, then is adament that everyone agrees with him on every little detail.
by Pastor Bill
March 24th, 2003, 4:13 am
Forum: Jude 2 General Discussion Forum
Topic: WHat do you believe about the gifts of the Spirit?
Replies: 52
Views: 43114

Michael, it sounds like you have really been around alot of abuse of this gift, and I can see why that would make you cynical. Biblically the gift is valid, and should be present in the church, but there are alot of churches that allow it to be abused. Personally I have not had to deal with as much ...

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